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Post by Eli Brayley on Mar 13, 2007 16:06:35 GMT -7
This is one of the worst books I have ever read. John Walvoord, president of Dallas Theological Seminary from 1952-86, writes in defense of the pre-tribulational rapture doctrine. This book is full of logical fallacies, assumptions, bad hermeneutics and sneaky anti-post-tribulational statements: just enough to capture the unprepared and naive Bible student.
I do not recommend this book. It is not worth the paper it is printed on. I'm disturbed by how false and deceptive this teaching really is... and yet so many churches advocate it.
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Post by romalynn on Dec 18, 2007 21:51:00 GMT -7
Eli I am new here, used to believe this. But the saddest thing I have seen regarding this is that someone not sure who, have seen it on boards and on a website, took the writings of Ireneaus, from the mid 100sAD, and twisted them all around to look like he might have supported it. He really did not even do that, except to mention a catching up of the church. I went into his writings, and foudn they had taken a paragraph from one chapter, then another paragraph from another chapter, for about five chapters. I did a whole file on it. I have it saved if anyone runs into this and wants to see it.
When the truth came out about how this idea got started then they had to invent another thing to say the early church writers taught it.
Someone told me it was in a book but I have not found that book, so I will not speculate as to the author.
Just if any of you runs into this and wants proof of what was done, I have already done the research and have it documented.
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Post by Eli Brayley on Dec 19, 2007 8:15:41 GMT -7
Romalynn,
Yeah, I've heard about crooked things like that happening, and I think I have some names too... I would like to see your research if that's alright. Please email them my way, thanks!
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Post by alan4jc on Dec 19, 2007 14:13:48 GMT -7
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Post by danlirette on Dec 19, 2007 14:23:01 GMT -7
That article is by Grant Jeffrer, isn't it? I don't put much stock in hsi writings: "In his book, Millennium Meltdown, Jeffrey attempted to document proof that as the new millennium began, millions of computers throughout the world would begin to crash. The lights would go out where the computers that run the electric power grid failed to make the transition to the next century. Jeffrey explained how the Y2K crisis was to be the most expensive and damaging crisis in history and how it could certainly set the stage for the rise of the antichrist and the tribulation period. These beliefs were common for that time and, while they held hints of paranoia, they were not inherently wrong, just a waste of time." (Source: www.raptureready.com/who/Grant_Jeffrey.html)
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Post by alan4jc on Dec 19, 2007 14:27:39 GMT -7
Dan, did you read the article that was on the site? What are you thoughts?
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Post by Eli Brayley on Dec 20, 2007 7:09:45 GMT -7
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