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Post by runner4jesus on Sept 8, 2007 21:37:10 GMT -7
;D AMEN, Kerrigan, we are too!
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Post by alan4jc on Dec 19, 2007 15:45:46 GMT -7
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Post by rebecca on Feb 14, 2008 19:44:39 GMT -7
I have a very bad feeling about this election does anyone else?
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Post by Eli Brayley on Feb 15, 2008 11:14:45 GMT -7
All I see is men without God. Politics without God. A nation with God. We can talk big, but it's all nothing.
I vote for the Lord Jesus Christ! "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this." (Isaiah 9:6-7)
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Post by runner4jesus on Feb 15, 2008 15:27:19 GMT -7
It's disgusting isn't it? Have never seen such a condition in our presidential race like this one. We'd like to vote that way you've stated Eli, and put Jesus Christ on our ballot, but there's only one result; we'll be giving it to Obama or Hillary and that would be detrimental to this nation for sure. We don't want to vote for a man either that doesn't genuinely love Jesus. When that man might be using the Christians to vote for them and change once they get into office, as has been the case; but it will be disastrous if Hillary or Obama get in. It will be even more dangerous to have them. Something to consider. We feel just like you do, but we can't allow the other choices either. Just a thought. Love in Jesus, Margie P.S.: There's a lot of Christians out there that feel the same way we do.
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Post by rebecca on Feb 15, 2008 19:52:09 GMT -7
This is the first time I can honestly say the next president may be the antichrist. I know the bible speaks of God giving the world a deluding spirit that they would believe a lie. I don't know of any other reason why anyone would vote for Hillary or Obama.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
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Post by rebecca on Feb 16, 2008 9:42:26 GMT -7
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Post by runner4jesus on Feb 16, 2008 11:31:39 GMT -7
Hi Rebecca: The spirit of anti-christ is already in the world, but the man of sin has certain characteristics spoken of in the bible. An American president does not fit the origin of where he will come from and out of. However, the president could conceivably aid the anti-christ. Our nation is decreasing as a world power by the day, but the EU is increasing. The man of sin will rise to power out of the revived Roman Empire. There are men right now that would fit the bill on the world scene; Sarcozy, Blair and there may be a third.
That blurb about Obama is a good one and shows how unamerican he is.
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Post by rebecca on Feb 18, 2008 5:39:02 GMT -7
Hi Rebecca: The spirit of anti-christ is already in the world, but the man of sin has certain characteristics spoken of in the bible. An American president does not fit the origin of where he will come from and out of. However, the president could conceivably aid the anti-christ. Our nation is decreasing as a world power by the day, but the EU is increasing. The man of sin will rise to power out of the revived Roman Empire. There are men right now that would fit the bill on the world scene; Sarcozy, Blair and there may be a third. That blurb about Obama is a good one and shows how unamerican he is. Mark 13:29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.
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Post by runner4jesus on Feb 18, 2008 10:42:40 GMT -7
THIS IS OFF TOPIC FOR THIS THREAD, BUT THIS GOES WITH REBECCA'S COMMENT ABOUT THE NEXT PRESIDENT AND ANTI-CHRIST.
I'll be president of Europe if you give me the power - Blair
Former PM consults old Downing Street allies on campaign for new EU role
* Patrick Wintour, political editor * The Guardian, * Saturday February 2 2008 * Article history · * Contact us
This article appeared in the Guardian on Saturday February 02 2008 on p1 of the Top stories section. It was last updated at 01:48 on February 02 2008. France's President Nicolas Sarkozy and former British prime minister Tony Blair
France's President Nicolas Sarkozy and former British prime minister Tony Blair. Photograph: Benoit Tessier/Reuters Tony Blair has been holding discussions with some of his oldest allies on how he could mount a campaign later this year to become full-time president of the EU council, the prestigious new job characterized as "president of Europe". Blair, currently the Middle East envoy for the US, Russia, EU and the UN, has told friends he has made no final decision, but is increasingly willing to put himself forward for the job if it comes with real powers to intervene in defence and trade affairs.
Blair, who is being actively promoted by the French president Nicolas Sarkozy, recognizes he would need to abandon his well-paid, private sector jobs if he won. His wife Cherie - often portrayed as seeking ever more wealth and well-paid consultancies for her husband - is understood to be supportive of him accepting the job.
Some Blair allies also say that he now recognizes that as envoy in the Middle East he is not going to be allowed to become the key player in furthering Israeli-Palestinian talks this year, and will be reduced to a role of supporting political development in Palestine and boosting its economy.
The president of the European council of ministers is a post created under the Lisbon treaty. The president will be the permanent chair of the council of ministers, Europe's chief decision-making body.
Jonathan Powell, Blair's Downing Street chief of staff, is among the former lieutenants he has met to discuss a bid for the European role.
Some senior figures believe he could yet be a loser in the carve-up of four big European jobs due to be distributed at the end of the French presidency in the second half of this year. Some claim that if the commission president, José Manuel Barroso, wanted to remain in post for a second term, it would be difficult for Blair, a political ally and previous advocate for Barroso, to hold the parallel, prestigious European council job.
Decisions also have to be made on the appointment of a new, "high representative" on foreign policy, and the post of president of the European parliament. Smaller EU countries are sensitive about key jobs being taken by leading figures from larger countries, especially from one that is not part of the eurozone or the Schengen free-movement area, and that actively supports Turkish membership, as Britain has. Some French socialists have already come out against Blair, citing his role in the war in Iraq. Former French president Valéry Giscard D'Estaing has also expressed his opposition.
It is thought that the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, is not persuaded of the advantages of a Blair presidency. The Christian Democrats have recently been politically weakened in state elections, and fear a Blair presidency might strengthen the German Social Democrats. Neither the Germans nor the French would push Blair if they believed his appointment was going to be opposed by Gordon Brown.
Blair himself is still doubtful that the role of council president will become a powerful job, saying he senses that even pro-Europeans might recoil from ceding power from the nation state.
With most countries currently focused on ratifying the Lisbon treaty through their national parliaments, decisions on the powers of the full-time president are unlikely to be made until the second half of the year.
Apart from Blair, two other candidates most often mentioned are the former Austrian chancellor Wolfgang Schüssel, promoted by Germany, and the current Luxembourg prime minister, Jean-Claude Juncker.
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